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To anonymous 423 who says: "When I bother, I see Satan as a symbol of rebellion of individuality, of a refusal to slave oneself to another's will. I've also used it as a symbol of resistance against the rampant influence of xianity in today's western culture."
Tani here responding. Yes, exactly: and this usually the ONLY, way most ex-xians or western people are ABLE to view the Satan. As a "NOT something." Unfortunately. I am not of this culture: AT ALL. What do you think, or rather, what does it FEEL LIKE when a person tries to hold your will? Are you even aware of this FEELING? You are on your PATH (Tao, Way The Wheel) FLOWING (the Sat, second law) doing your own thing, at one with yourself, flowing along. Then along comes SOMEONE that tries to GET IN YOUR WAY, get in your path, HALT you, HOLD you, CONTROL you. This requires you to YANG to remove the obstacle. That YANG is what you experience as Satan/rebellion and it is apparently ALL YOU ARE ABLE to feel or relate to in terms of the OLDER meaning of Sat and Tan. I know, you are no more interested in entropy or physics than the rest of your lot: what you are doing is what I PREDICTED you'd all do in my first Dark Force post: nit-pick and try to lord it over, pretend you are a Sage on a Stage sneering down at others. Klippothic actions. Grasp:(waste of time, I know YOU can't, but others might): Inertial mass (which doesn't even EXIST here as our cosmos is) in motion. That is: INERTIAL MASS IN MOTION (and it is ALWAYS in motion) is MOMEMTUM. The Will of the masses united under one will is LIKE this. And when it stops it stops CRASH: The Third Reich is an example of this in human terms: loosely speaking.
For those of us who do not have to YANG to get out of the way of a typical western xtoid nothingness, your rebellion sounds (to us) like a WAIL of inner torment, an agony at YOURSELF. You notice this and focus on it because IT is inside your own being. You ARE a xian/ex-xian. You ONLY KNOW "rebellion" in terms of NOISE or YANG. You DO NOT know how to turn within and flow away continuing on your path of LEAST resistance with only a slight deviation to get out of the way of the "rock" or xian or tyrant. Sure: at times that doesn't work. You have to spin around and DEMOLISH the person: "DO HIM" once and for all. FINISH him. When our kind have done this, we went all the way and did it very swiftly. That doesn't take thinking to do. You spin around and SMASH the person. All animals do this. What's the big deal?
There is no "dark Taoism" there is only TAOISM and it is indeed, a DARK TRADITION. The TAO is the same as the "flow" we speak of in our doctrines. But Xian icons on a stage of wailing metal-heads, upside- down, side-ways, being trashed: they are STILL xian icons. I see: XIANS WAILING, I see damaged animals in inner torment making NOISE. I do not focus on them; do not wish to share their own hell. By their own wailing and extreme focus ON xians, they prove themselves to BE STILL xians. That you even imagine a "dark Taoism" exposes your STILL xian/dualist construction (mental concept or how you DO NOT FEEL something but only feel something ELSE). You KNOW rebellion, of this I'm sure. Neo-satanism is ABOUT rebellion. But SATANISM (not neo) is a whole other thing, a HUGE thing that is or at least was (before we gave people KEYS to how to see it and find it) wholly hidden from NEO-satanism. The extreme xians, not the nuts but the scholars out there, seem to have no trouble defining all of "our stuff" as satanism, no matter what name it falls under: Tantra, Taoism, Masonry, etc.
Another thing your kind can't, just can not seem to grasp is that we, (or I) anthropomorphise NOTHING. I CAN NOT anthropomorphise. When I SAY/HEAR Satan I hear one thing; it is a knee-jerk response much the same as I'd have if I said "I'm hungry." Hunger: a feeling in the STOMACH. Satan is IN HERE, not out there. When I hear Satan, I look WITHIN; I never tend to look "out there." We MADE symbols of this, just as we could make a symbol of hunger or food, the act of EATING. But the symbols we made are NOT what the west has always seen them as: icons or idols. NO SUCH THING. Your kind NEVER seem to grasp this in the inner sense. You can quote this, parrot the words but you do not GET IT. You can likewise say "c-major, e-minor" but if you do not HEAR the difference then you may as well SHUT UP because you CAN NOT fool a person who CAN hear the difference. The hearing is DIRECT sensory perception. Well, so is entropy or second law or SATAN to us. The word is SYNONYMOUS for us. It is a force of a KIND, not a force specifically; it is hidden, unseen: hence DARK. Dark to us knee-jerk means SOFTNESS, QUIETNESS. It is soft: hence DARK. Dark MEANS SOFT to us. SOFT, like yin. Yet yin and yang are NOT dual polarities at all. Your kind NEVER gets this. So GIVE IT UP. You don't get it because you don't FEEL FEEL FEEL FEEL FEEL IT. OK? Stop trying to hear chords when you're TONE DEAF! Give it up! I'm NOT trying to be nasty here. Just blunt.
You don't even see that this rampant influx of xianity in today's western culture is not a "today" issue. It's been there for AGES and it's been there long before it was called "xianity." Western culture and xianity are almost SYNONYMS; especially "WASP" and "XIAN." Another name for it is "male solar phallic cult" and a better name for it is DUALISM. A technical new neurological name for it is alexythemia and/or anosognosia. Against this, our Satan is no symbol nor is our Satan of ANY IMPORTANCE. It is for YOU PEOPLE that Satan becomes the rebel and DUAL END of YOUR OWN "GOD" tyrant authority figure. We HAVE NO SUCH CONCEPTS! If you want to know SATANISM, get our doctrines. We ARE Satan-ISM.
You are apparently the type of rebellious person that may have spoken out when an entire NATION of Germans wanted not only a head to think for them, but a head to tell them exactly what to do. They WANTED this and they GOT IT. And LOOK where it lead them. The head thought alright for awhile, but eventually the true FORM of the head took shape: LUNACY. Hitler was a puritan and had been this when HIS puberty hit him. Then he set upon a LONG course of SUBLIMATION which is the ROOT of thanatos, it's HOW you people end up feeling detached from life, lonely, isolated from nature: YOUR OWN NATURE. Eventually this "man with no root" grew into (xeper) what he WAS: a rootless plant with nothing but barren branches grown from it. LOOK at what he did. The MOMENTUM of it all just kept going right until the end. He murdered MORE GERMANS than Jews and he was supposed to LOVE the Germans. Now if you rebelled and refused to slave yourself to the Will of that State, you'd LOSE YOUR LIFE! What good is this? It is easier (least resistance) to SUBMIT to the will of the tyrant and then SUBTELY subvert it. That's what we do. And we NATURALLY do it almost with no effort. Of course you obey Aquino as one would have obeyed Hitler and do not DARE admit that in such a matter as Presidio: "YOU DO NOT KNOW." You would not dare do this. SLAVE!
In Dark Force post I stated in there what "your kind" will do: pretend to know what you do not know, etc. I just sat back and LET YOU SHOW ALL how you really DO these things. And you did it. Word by word, you did it. I did nothing but sit back and watch. What you are DO-ing, WILL-ing has to do with your own feelings of self-WORTH, a concept that only exists in dualist societies. You seek to remain "on top" whilst sneering down on words Peggy said first and words I said more strongly and also words I used to DISMISS your worth. What you have to say is objectively WORTHLESS NONSENSE. What I have to say is not and I don't even normally feel inclined to say words to ANYONE on this subject. Asked to do a job, I do it when I agree to do it. But we all know that the subject is NOT-entropy. The subject is YOU, your WORTH. The facade of "intellect" you pretend to have was threatened when I called you STUPID and then you simply proceeded to PROVE how stupid you really are. I didn't even have to say more. You showed it yourself: STUPIDITY.
You sadly show just HOW utterly dead you are, how completely barren, when you choose to use "measurement of child" as some dead, lifeless THING. Child grows, ergo there is more child. And this, you see as nothing? Let me inform you Mr. Completely Dead. CELL exists. It is ONE. It becomes TWO. It becomes FOUR. So far, the cells are undifferentiated like cancer cells are. THEN they differentiate. A do-nut shape forms and more things happen. We are deuterostomes, like annelids are, and we develop in much a similar way as annelids: but we are NOT annelids. Once upon a time, humans and annelids WERE the same thing. This multiplicity of forms, this mechanism whereby they do DIFFERENTIATE even within a womb of a human mother: is wholly unknown. WHY CELLS differentiate is unknown. But they do, and they are PUSHED FORTH by a force whereby the chemical and electrical MECHANISMS that ARE the differentiated merely-cells are MOLDED specifically and UNIQUELY. You are a one of a kind BEING, you will never occur again. Just as no two snowflakes are alike, no two LIVING THINGS are alike. There are two mechanisms at work here: parsimony, whereby energy is conserved and superfluous things cast out; and diversity, whereby the forms get more and more complex and AT THE SAME TIME, lose mechanisms. The two things SEEM to move against each other: parsimony and diversity. But look or rather FEEL deeper on this. TRY. Are you so DEAD to the MIRACLE of life? I think you are. And your culture is also. And that IS what you are wrongly calling "xianity in western culture." Also, this tendency to make everything "merely a mechanical measurement" is NOT Platonism tho it happens to be what Platonism BECAME in the hands of equally DEAD western culture. They woefully forgot Plato's MAIN foundational insistence upon THE DIONYSIAN. Without the dionysian you can not HAVE the apollonian. All you end up with is DEADNESS. A child does NOT merely grow, and can not BE measured really. All they can measure is the child's height, weight, etc. That's SO superficial as to be almost ludicrous. You have grown. But at some point, you rebelled at the growing deep inside yourself. You result now in being a dead thing: like a tree with no roots. You can't even FEEL the nature WITHIN you AND around you to understand it in my baby words. And that IS your measure Mr. Anonymous. I wrote it this way to SHOW ALL what your kind are, predicting what you'd all do. You'd open your mouth and SHOW your own barrenness. Yes. The only Satan you can relate to is "THE REBEL." But in a society where there is NO NEED to rebel because people are INNATELY tolerant and foster a "do your own thing" nature there is NO NEED for "The Rebel." So when you HAVE TO rebel because some asshole got in your way, you have to get into a CONFLICT, feel STRIFE. We Satanists despise the way this feels. It feels suffocating. But as Satanists we DO NOT LIVE with this within ourselves nor would we EVER seek it out. For you, this is the ONLY Satan you know: rebellion, strife, conflict. And you CALL yourself a Satanist, or imagine that this is what Satanists are! You may as well call yourself a conflict seeker, strife seeker and rebel. Defining yourself as these NEGATIVES is not a definition of a Self. It is merely the definition of your self IN REACTION TO something other than yourself and when normal people HAVE to get involved in such a thing they HATE IT. But I see into this: This IS your self: to rebel, to FEEL adverse, averse, perverse a nd to ONLY feel these things. Where is your concept of SATAN IS JOY? SATAN IS FUN? SATAN IS A LAUGH? SATAN IS A SONG? SATAN IS A DANCE? It doesn't exist in you. FOR YOU: Satan is strife, conflict, rebellion. I pity you. Your own life is hell, your existence is hell. And you don't have a CLUE as to how to get out of this. We have drawn many images of the satan. MOST images of it show it dancing: Shiva and etc. Other images show it gobbling up the cosmos as time toes: Sri Kala Chakra. Other images are of the Satan as "random element" Mr. Luck, the Joker. Dice and cards in hand, these images are there to be seen. You never SAW: you only IMAGINED these were "deities" and then you anthropomorphised them YOURSELF. We never did this. We drew REAL THINGS IN LIFE in pictoral form. YOU can't read these things and no matter how many of us come forth to explain it: it falls on tone-deaf ears. You can SAY "yes, ok, e-minor, c-major," but you are UNABLE to hear the difference directly. You follow a leader, like Hitler, who would seek to extricate himself from the food chain, who creates a "theory of evolution" as ludicrout as the Creation Science one and who has typically xian capacity for co-opting words like they co-opted not-Plato, words like "unifield field" and what they talk about is and can be defined exactly LIKE the xian kingdom of god; you follow XIANS and you IMAGINE they are Satanists. This is INCREDIBLE. What you do not grasp and will never grasp about this "rebellion" at the tyrant you focus on is that THEY WHO WOULD DESIRE TO TYRANIZE: ARE the rebels. Those who'd seek to be FREE of their strangle hold are NOT the rebels. A torturer experiments on an animal in a lab. The Animal squirms and seeks to be free. Of course it does. It is the experimenter who is doing the abomination and rebeling at the very web of life itself by doing this: all in order to help SICK humans that should just lay down and DIE. Western culture long before xianity has been one LONG tyranny of the head where the people try to hold and control the perfect body and try and manage to SUBVERT, REPRESS and OPPRESS instincts whilst imagining all this nature to be some kind of unwieldy NATURAL thing. Head-tyranny. LOOK what your kind have done just to the eco-system. And all your bullshit organizations to the contrary, they DO NOTHING but cause conflicts or get some land owners to determinedly turn against the Green movement forever over some stupid spotted owl. Meanwhile in Brazil.... What, the USA doesn't have the power to simply go down to the Amazon and STOP THEM from continuing this? Sure, the USA could do it. COULD. And due to petty small trivia like this, if there was a vote to be had in the USA in favor of halting the burning in S. America these klippothic organizations will have INSURED that these angered people (over one damned owl) will vote against it. I don't see Greenpeace burning down the oil companies and putting an END to it once and for all. No. They just cause conflicts and set people against them. And to bring that into focus I never saw chubby people pick on skinny-bones, but look what the skeletal DIE-it freaks do to chubby people. Same old klippothic excuses to STOMP on someone else. All of it is one whopping big anti-flesh movement. No, I'm not fat; I'm STACKED and I know it: ergo I can talk with impunity. Back to Greenpeace and their Big Nothings. They could solve the overpopulation problem AND save the rain forest or at least advocate it. I don't hear it. One way to INSURE that S. Americans no longer burn down OUR OXYGEN producing trees is to FINISH THE PEOPLE DOING IT. DO them! Same for the so-called drug-war fantasy. DO the Columbians with napalm and Agent Orange the way they did to Vietnam for NO GOOD REASON AT ALL. No, if there is a good reason you can expect klippoths to NEVER do something. To eliminate a problem they love to GRIPE about would be to deprive them of their GRIPE and take away the conflicts they LOVE so much. US? We don't like conflicts of any kind. Let it ALL perish. YOUR KIND MADE this mess. We predicted your kind would do this long ago. Meanwhile, you are fantasizing that you "are doing things" in the TOS. At least I KNOW I'm not doing a blasted thing about it: FUCK IT.. Circular non-being. Recycle, only to have more junk made more and more to recycle more. I do not subscribe to any work ethic. YOU recycle. I'll read a book and be entertained. Meanwhile more and more styrofoam and such is made. Instead of STOPPING they "plan to decrease." What fantasy YOUR KIND live in. And then there is your Master's bullshit words on DIE-its. YOU DIE-it. I do not have to. Product of eugenics I am: the natural animal kind. Your BREED is one long angst of sex problems and now food problems. Everything has to be a CHORE. Life is ALWAYS a problem for your kind, in need of solving or salvation, meanwhile lots of striving and wannabe. So you (not personal) extricate yourself from the food chain and pretend to be an herbivore. PURITAN ethic all over again as the book "Meat Three Times a Day" shows. Pseudo science, and pseudo nutrition and you are so far from nature you don't even know what to eat. You need a BOOK OF RULES to tell you what to eat. True: you are no longer an animal, no longer zoos-eros. This is what WENT INTO the culture you THINK xianity infested. You people ARE xianity no matter what name you give your gods. You HAVE GODS. We never did! We have A NATURE in common with other living things, attached to other living things in a web of life that could be FELT. Wh at your kind has done to this web is you've torn it to shreds. When you try to fix it, you tear it up even more. You people ARE hell on earth. Xianity did not MAKE these people into this. It was THESE PEOPLE who invented doctrines LIKE xianity, dualisms, strif-ethics, etc. OUR KIND have the dark doctrine wherever we are and no matter WHEN we lived.
Don't BOTHER to answer this. GO HOME AND THINK about this and GET A CLUE to the riddle that is yourself. KNOW yourself. You have DELUSIONS and fancies. You have, in fact, an ego construction of what you think you are: but you don't KNOW yourself because if you did: you'd AT LEAST be able to feel it when you DONT KNOW something. You don't even know THAT. How xian infects this culture? Xianity has infected you to such a degree that you ARE xianity. You are like cookies that are formed in a VERY IDENTIFIABLE MOLD: that is WHY we see TOS and xians are THE SAME THING: CLONES. Yes, I KNOW. YOU DO NOT see it, don't have a clue. In time: YOU WILL. Remember these words. You all do, eventually. No one can PERSIST too long in the state you all get into: UTTERLY repressed as if DEAD; so unaware that you don't even KNOW when you don't know a thing. In time, you either have a MAJOR crisis over this repression or your body starts to ATTACK ITSELF: that is auto-immune diseases set in. Some have this crisis fast. Some go thru eating disorders (the GET SKINNY SKINNY type) wherein you sort of practice what xian monks did of old, only you do it INTERNALLY with foods. YOU ALL do this. This, right now, is RAMPANT in your culture. Xianity did not do this. This is the KIND of humans you have been for a VERY LONG TIME, now. SURE your women have fertility problems. SURE. Desperate to adopt or whatever. SURE they do. Humans, sapiens for what, 1 million years? That's NOTHING in terms of geological epochs. Sure, I say your kind are FINISHED. THEY ARE! I'm just noting that "grass is green" when I say that. NOTHING personal. You can't even be sincere with yourself: no, you are TOO BUSY trying to find ways to GRIN DOWN on Diane Vera while you make more of a FOOL of yourself. STOP and look into yourself or you will REMEMBER these words (as so so many othes have) and later say:"she was RIGHT." You can't keep living a life of LIES. It's not possible. Sooner or later? The BODY TURNS on the ego tyrant. Then: you get REALLY SICK, like cancer, auto-immune reactions, etc.